
In Chapter 13 of V for Vendetta many of the actions and dialouge that take place between V and Evey are nearly identical to those actions that take place between Tyler Durden and The Narrator in the novel Fight Club. Which lead me to think "What do these similarities say about both of these characters?" V is all about justice and people being free to do what they choose to do, rather than do what the government wants the person to do. Tyler Durden is extremely similar to that in the sense that he is constantly pushing people to "hit rock bottom" to do what they want to do rather that just fill the norms of society.
There are some striking similarities in the actions of these two main characters. V tells Evey "Happiness is a prison, Evey. Happiness is the most insidious proson of all. Your lover lived in the penitentiary that we are all born into, and was forced to rake the dregs of that world for his living." While at the same time Tyler tells the members of the fight club "The ability to let that which does not matter truly slide. You are not your job. You are not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis. You are the all singing all dancing crap of the world." Both men, though expressed a tad differently have the same general idea of having personal freedoms rather than freedom as a country. Both also seem to have an extensive knowledge of how to turn household items into explosive devices and love to use those said devices to blow up the likes of govermnet buildings or buildings of credit card companies.
There are also some similarities in the colors of the comic and the colors of the movie, Fight Club. In V, the colors used are always very dull and the pictures have very murky tones. The same is true with the movie version of Fight Club. The majority of the scenes are shot in darker places, and most of what you can see is just the main characters. In Understanding Comics, Scott McCloud talks about how color takes a central role in comics. Which could be the reasoning for using such murky colors in V as well as Fight Club. The authors, directors, and illustrators would rather have the audience viewing the subject matter of the comic, novel, or movie rather than paying attention to the striking colors, and moving the subject matter into more of a secondary role.
The ideas of these two provocative characters are similar, but what are some differences? There is one main difference I noticed. V would rather use his words to convince his followers to believe what he believes. He uses his eloquence to draw Evey in to see his point of view. While, Tyler would rather use, lets say, extreme measures. These measures can start of simply, such as starting a fight with a random person and then lose the fight. But Durden never does anything simply. His final measure to get his followers to "hit rock bottom" was to burn their hand with a chemical. They are not allowed to use the vinegar to dillute the burn until he truly believes the person has reached "rock bottom." After their hands have been burned, each follower then sees the world in a more "Tyler-like" way.
Overall, both of these characters are two of the most interesting characteres I have ever read about. Both have amazing ideals for themselves and the people around them, and are willing to do nearly anything to have those ideals come to light, even if it means death. These extreme meansures taken by both V and Tyler Durden lead me, and hopefully many other readers to respect both of these characters, and deem them two of the most eccentric characters in literature.
I am told, deer almost never travel more than five miles from their birthplaces during their lives. If an enclosure were located outside the normal unimpeded limits of a deer's lifetime wanderings would the deer enclosed be imprisoned? Perhaps, but note that it makes a difference to our intuitions whether someone install that enclosure[..] A jail without a jailer is not a jail.
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Now, it seems to me that the jail V is talking about is too many things at the same time. It's of course the prison created by the authoritative regime on the deviants as on the regular citizens and its employees, but it's also the happy unaware life, it's an existence without principles, it's the life of whom fears the death. But where is the jailer? In this passage V looks to me much more schizophrenic than in the rest of the graphic novel, in the sense that he's obsessed with an idea over any logical limit.
At the same time I kind of agree with this position: V is an anarchist, he doesn’t believe that it is necessary to give away freedom to receive security. He doesn’t believe in chaos and disorder either. His beliefs can be summed up by a quote from Aleister Crowley: ‘Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.’ V agrees with Aleister Crowley that it is possible to know one’s True Will, True Will being the true calling, potential and will of an individual, rather than needs, desires or wishes that are constantly experienced and which control most personal decisions and choices. V calls this process of discovering one’s True Will ‘escaping the prison’. He ‘escapes the prison’ of his perceived needs, wishes and desires by being physically imprisoned in a concentration camp. http://animamrecro.wordpress.com/2008/01/26/alan-moore-…
Thou, Tyrell Durden is clearly speaking about consumerism and life oriented on consumerism as a jailer. Which jailer is V speaking about?